# Best steering cable for old Matthews launch?

**URL:** https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313
**Category:** MECHANICAL
**Created:** [February 8, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313 "2024-02-08T13:09:32Z")
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### Author: ![dusk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@dusk](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/dusk)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/1 "2024-02-08T13:09:32Z")

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Picked up a 1902 22’ launch barn find this fall. Need to replace steering cable. Had a chain originally, but has been lost to time. Trying to keep it original, but willing to vary on the cable as I’ve found the ability to reliably steer a boat useful. Has bow and side steer station.

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### Author: ![matt](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.oldboatshome.com/matt/32/1_2.png) [@matt](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/matt)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/2 "2024-02-08T17:14:12Z")

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Do you have a photo of the original?

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### Author: ![dusk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@dusk](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/dusk)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/3 "2024-02-09T00:51:24Z")

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Hello Matt,

The pic from the 40s below shows a small part of the original chain drive on the side steering station. I tried to send two add’l pics of the setup currently, but as a newbie, I am allowed only one.

Thanks for any help!

Mark

 ![Inline image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/oldboatshome/original/1X/8d4ef0e911a02bb13948a11d4228d1cb17e14f87.jpeg "Inline image")

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### Author: ![dusk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@dusk](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/dusk)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/4 "2024-02-09T00:56:13Z")

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![IMG_8251](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/oldboatshome/original/1X/10bcd6a6a8d1305d6aafab3645ee1256855fc88a.jpeg)  
Here is the rudder connection currently…yikes!

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### Author: ![dusk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@dusk](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/dusk)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/5 "2024-02-09T01:03:55Z")

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![IMG_8494](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/oldboatshome/original/1X/76f9e8e7241368518acfccfa30ff1c4715f91a89.jpeg)  
And the current steering setup

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### Author: ![Syd](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.oldboatshome.com/syd/32/199_2.png) [@Syd](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/Syd)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/6 "2024-02-10T21:10:41Z")

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It may have had bronze cable at the ends of the chain. Nice find and boat. Is that a Fay & Bowen motor? I have a LoZier launch and Mathew’s made the hulls for them.

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### Author: ![Syd](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.oldboatshome.com/syd/32/199_2.png) [@Syd](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/Syd)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/7 "2024-02-10T21:17:48Z")

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![IMG_0521](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/oldboatshome/original/1X/d42d7c5a1079d0924a2492326442df1e0ce0f278.jpeg)

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### Author: ![dusk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@dusk](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/dusk)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/8 "2024-02-11T19:57:52Z")

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Good eye, Syd! It is a Fay & Bowen 5 or 6hp single cylinder. What kind of steering cable does your launch use?  
Lozier is an interesting story as well. Went from bicycles to motors (moving from Toledo/Cleveland to Plattsburgh to make motors for launches and then switched to making cars, when most were moving to Detroit!)

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### Author: ![DavidK](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.oldboatshome.com/davidk/32/106_2.png) [@DavidK](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/DavidK)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/9 "2024-02-12T13:48:15Z")

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I have A 1930 Luders commuter that used a very similar steering quadrant. When I rebuilt the boat, I replaced the cable with 1 x 19 stainless because it was quite flexible. It has worked fine for years. Not the least expensive, but I believe it to be a good choice.

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### Author: ![dusk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@dusk](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/dusk)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/10 "2024-02-12T22:22:42Z")

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Thanks David. As a total newbie on steering cable, where do I find it? And is it encased in a plastic sleeve? If not, won’t it mar or dig into the steering drums?

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### Author: ![DavidK](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.oldboatshome.com/davidk/32/106_2.png) [@DavidK](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/DavidK)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/11 "2024-02-13T02:54:13Z")

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The cable loft in Florida is a good supplier 888-535-7286. The plastic isn’t necessary. They typically brushed a heavy grease on the wire rope near the pulley to lubricate it.

Regards,

David K Van Ness

Van Ness Engineering LLC  
201 445 8685

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### Author: ![dusk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@dusk](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/dusk)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/12 "2024-02-13T13:27:37Z")

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Thanks!

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### Author: ![Arnie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Arnie](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/Arnie)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/13 "2024-02-13T15:50:27Z")

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Home Depot has vinyl covered steel cable sold by the foot - it is about 5/32” or 3/16” in diameter. I use it for replacing outboard engine steering cable. Check it out!

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### Author: ![Syd](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.oldboatshome.com/syd/32/199_2.png) [@Syd](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/Syd)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/14 "2024-03-05T11:56:54Z")

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My LoZier uses a bronze cable

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### Author: ![dusk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@dusk](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/u/dusk)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2024, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.oldboatshome.com/t/best-steering-cable-for-old-matthews-launch/313/15 "2024-03-13T12:36:03Z")

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Thanks, Syd!  
Does your Lozier have the same rudder cable connection? If so, can you post a pic of how it is threaded/connected?
